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		<title>idealogically stumped for now</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2009/08/27/idealogically-stumped-for-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been involved with the ODP for quite some time now.  But lately I have been spending substantially more time with my web development business as not only it pays the bills but also was my passion all the time. ODP is and will remain to be another passion, but somewhere down the line [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been involved with the <strong>ODP</strong> for quite some time now.  But lately I have been spending substantially more time with my web development business as not only it pays the bills but also was my passion all the time. ODP is and will remain to be another passion, but somewhere down the line I feel ideologically stumped . In my tenure I have seen many people arrive at this scenario for varying reasons and probably this is just another of those.  I don&#8217;t feel urged to quit , but i don&#8217;t at the same time feel motivated to go back and edit right now either.</p>
<p>Ever since I started editing I have been vocal about my reasonings and intentions .  I have edited , maybe not hugely in numbers some random 2500 or so edits , but I believe i also have participated in various discussions and verbal to and fro&#8217;s. In all this time, I have felt the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">need for quality editing</span></strong> as opposed to quantity &#8211; part of which is due to my involvement in my business and also my laziness <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  , but a major part also to adhere to the <strong>Guidelines</strong> we always speak about. I like reading through old forum discussions, newsletters and instructions and formed some ideas of my own  from those.</p>
<p>But seemingly not all of them are to be followed &#8211; as determined by the current powers that be . With the modernization trend going on , the<strong> ODP</strong> is slanting towards a more &#8220;<strong>customer centric entity</strong>&#8221; which will supposedly need to look and cater to the vocal traffic on the web . <strong>Quality Check</strong> , although bookwise is the good thing to do , is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">less of a concern</span> . In my time period I have seen the rise of need for grooming up smaller editors to larger zones without proper checking , from Metas ,  Editalls, Admins even when notified about it .  And in the recent past , I have also come across incidents where we are told that in written communications, we should think of catering more towards the vocal population on the web as opposed to the Editor community and layman visitors &#8211; which we used to be told as our Primary Interest Group .</p>
<p>I know what I am speaking off can easily be considered as blasphemous . But hey , this is MY blog .</p>
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		<title>For webmasters interest in DMOZ</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2008/11/22/for-webmasters-interest-in-dmoz/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a webmaster , personally &#8230; I feel a lot of other webmasters can actively help in the Open Directory Project , instead of constantly venting about the difficulty in submission , acceptance . I have also been able to harness a good amount of utility / benefit while being a voluntary editor and have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a <a title="web development" href="http://www.websys.co.in" target="_blank">webmaster</a> , personally &#8230; I feel a lot of other webmasters can actively help in the <span style="color: #339966;"><strong>O</strong></span>pen <span style="color: #339966;"><strong>D</strong></span>irectory <span style="color: #339966;"><strong>P</strong></span>roject , instead of constantly venting about the difficulty in submission , acceptance . I have also been able to harness a good amount of utility / benefit while being a voluntary editor and have recently been invited to share them on the <a title="My blog post on the Dmoz Blog" href="http://blog.dmoz.org/2008/11/21/how-being-a-dmoz-editor-helps-webmasters-improve-their-skills/" target="_blank">Official Dmoz Blog</a> .</p>
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		<title>got accepted by the boss</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2008/10/21/got-accepted-by-the-boss/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK , so I am somewhat happy , that I got accepted by the Boss   if you know me , you would ask that I don&#8217;t work for someone , I am my own boss &#8230; so who is it that Boss and what did he accept me for, right ?
Well , I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK , so I am somewhat happy , that I got accepted by the Boss <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  if you know me , you would ask that I don&#8217;t work for someone , I am my own boss &#8230; so who is it that Boss and what did he accept me for, right ?</p>
<p>Well , I do work also as a volunteer editor on the <strong><span style="color: #008000;">Open Directory Project</span></strong> . Almost an year ago i joined under a small category and I have been <a title="Dmoz Guidelines" href="http://editors.dmoz.org/guidelines/" target="_blank">learning the ropes</a> . It&#8217;s been a informative ride mostly , save few incidents which has confused me recently in <strong>Regional/</strong> . I like working in regional , as it helps me build up the categories with sites of local business and organizations, events and public / government utilities or important ones such as <strong>Education</strong>.</p>
<p>But in order to diversify my interests , I have also applied for a <strong>topical category</strong> recently . And in most occasions I have been accepted by my superiors ( <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Metas</strong></span> ) as being ready for handling more sites and categories and thus encouraged . The last category I applied for was interestingly accepted by the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Dmoz Editor -in-Chief ( </strong><strong>rdkeating25 )</strong></span> <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; thus the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Boss</strong></span> :p . To be frank , I was of the opinion ( from forum threads ) , that he is usually dormant / inactive in day to day operations of the directory . But maybe that is not true for all days .</p>
<p>You will however find <em>him</em> more in the new and <span style="color: #008000;"><a title="Dmoz Official Blog" href="http://blog.dmoz.org" target="_blank"><strong>Official Dmoz Blog</strong></a></span> &#8211; which is currently being regularly updated .</p>
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		<title>10 things satisfy DMOZ editor</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2008/06/29/10-things-satisfy-dmoz-editor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[10 things to remember if you want to satisfy a Dmoz editor &#8211; this was not my original blog title , but i decided to change this as i continued writing and noticed , this is what i want and also what many others might want to know.

I visit many a webmaster forum and even [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>10 things to remember if you want to satisfy a <font color="#008000">Dmoz editor</font></strong> &#8211; this was not my original blog title , but i decided to change this as i continued writing and noticed , this is what i want and also what many others might want to know.</p>
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<li>I visit many a webmaster forum and even though I am a <font color="#99ccff"><a href="http://www.websys.co.in" title="web development india">web developer</a></font> myself, it often pains me to see quite a few webmasters constantly cribbing about how <strong>ODP editors</strong> do not wish to hear their requests, <font color="#008000"><strong>DMOZ</strong></font> does not give attention to its customers and Dmoz is no longer valuable. Such posts does not do you much good ( i for sure do not enjoy seeing it, nor does it make help your cause.) Your time is more valuable than ranting about it.</li>
<li>I would have liked to write &#8221; <em>don&#8217;t be the problem, be the solution</em>&#8221; . But i know the smartass answer to that . That being, &#8216;<em>DMOZ meta editors are a secretive and scheming bastards and they do not approve XYZ&#8217;s application, so if my attempt at being a solution is blocked, i would rather be a problem</em>&#8216;.<br />
<u> Wrong again</u> &#8211; DMOZ meta editors who have the extremely difficult task of handling multiple responsibilities,   along with checking your submitted applications are bound by even more difficult set of protocols and norms to maintain while review yours. Make sure you comply with <u><font color="#ff0000"><strong>all</strong></font> the requested tasks in the application form</u>. if you have complied with it , you have already done your bit. Do not dilute that good deed.</li>
<li>During my not so illustrious career as <strong>DMOZ editor</strong>,  my first few days was  filled up by studying the <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/" title="DMOZ guidelines">guidelines</a> ,  which drives my editing operations every day. As an editor I am supposed to <font color="#800080">find and select links</font>, websites and resources to fill up my category. <font color="#000000">A librarian&#8217;s bookmarks, a link list created by an obsessive surfer cum webmaster of a particular genre / interest, were the origin of web directories</font> . As an editor, I will take more time in locating such over user submitted websites . Deal with it . And even better &#8211; become the resource I have a probability to find. <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>The next part of the guidelines also explained how to <strong>write titles for a website</strong>. When you create a website, you already have a true name for it &#8211; it is helpful if you keep that in mind while submitting . If you <strong><font color="#993300">are</font></strong> <font color="#3366ff">Bill&#8217;s Plumbing</font>, i will name you as Bill&#8217;s Plumbing  only and<strong><u> not</u></strong> Plumbing, Pipes, Cheapest plumber, Best Customer Support etc etc. Sounds good ?</li>
<li>Coming to <strong>descriptions</strong> &#8211; I know what would irritate me . If i see an Ad on the local yellow pages of a carpenter , and visited his shop only to see  that he currently <u>only</u> sells hammers and nails  . Or again, How would you really feel if you decided to order a 5 tier birthday cake and went to the bakery, only to see it is a single guy standing outside a shop with a basket with a few muffins ? I am hoping you understand what I am getting at here .</li>
<li>Describing a site, I feel requires knowing it&#8217;s <font color="#ff00ff">content</font> , and also gaining some knowledge <font color="#ff00ff">about the owner</font> / organization of the site and <font color="#ff00ff">his/ her intent</font>. If you have ever purchased an SSL Certificate before , you will understand this scenario  &#8211; just like the certifying authority ( such as GoDaddy , Verisign etc <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) , I am certifying , in a way , that your site is what I am saying it is . So please , make it <font color="#ff0000">obvious</font> on your website what you really do and even better &#8211; have examples of what you have done / can do, and identify yourself / your organization .</li>
<li>You have made a product , or you are offering a service &#8211; very few times there would be someone better than you who can best <font color="#008000"><strong>categorize</strong></font> you or your website . So make sure when your submit your url, do it in the exactly right category. It could so be that where you have submitted may not have a exact category editor , and it may be reviewed by someone with relatively less knowledge on the topic . If that happens, your submission may cause the passing reviewer more trouble in choosing the right category for you, and if it does not get sent to the proper category , it may remain in the loop &#8211; thus extending the delay of your approval.</li>
<li>Do not submit your site in the DMOZ if all you need is a <font color="#800080">link from a PRX  page</font> . There are hundreds of other ways to get that . Inside the directory , if you are submitting for the first time and if you have a physical business, it is of utmost importance that you submit it first in your local <strong><font color="#008000">regional category</font></strong>, even if that means submitting to a page with Zero Pagerank . There is a high probability that such a low level category might have lesser submission reviewing workload for the editor. It might also quite possibly happen that the editor who is reviewing your site may already know of your business.</li>
<li><u>Do not offer bribes , donations, congratulations letters masked as submission status requests, endorsements of any kinds.</u> If you really want to do good , save the world from corrupt dmoz editors, there is a <a href="http://report-abuse.dmoz.org/" title="Report Abuse">button</a> for that . ( <a href="http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Push_the_button" title="push the button">Push the button</a> ) :p</li>
<li>Do not create duplicate , triplicate clone websites just for <font color="#008000"><strong>submission</strong></font> to the <font color="#008000"><strong>ODP</strong></font> . I can not possibly recommend business strategies for you , so you can easily have multiple websites for gaming, seo , traffic , profit and all important reason, but do not make it your intent to submit all of them to us &#8211; we can by rule only accept and review any one of them.</li>
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<p>The above list is not exhaustive, neither endorsed in any way by DMOZ , Netscape, and any one else but me in my personal capacity as a adviser of you &#8211; my web visitor . <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  . I do not take responsibility of any good as well as bad effects which may or may not occur to you and your website in its endeavor in getting listed in the ODP. However , if you do get a kick out of it , and also benefit from these points, feel free to <strong>share this article</strong> to your friend and social circle . <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wishing you all the best .</p>
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		<title>scolded by my meta</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2008/01/17/scolded-by-my-meta/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[new category permissions in DMOZ, scolded by a Meta, greenbusting]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/angry.gif" title="meta scolding editor - cartoon design by websys" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/angry.gif" alt="dmoz editor n distress - image copyright phpcafe" align="left" border="0" hspace="2" /></a>Yesterday was suddenly an important day for my <strong>DMOZ</strong> editor life. I received feedback from a <strong>Meta editor</strong>, who started by saying &#8220;This is a unsolicited feedback&#8230;&#8221; <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  . The exact contents of the full email is not something i should divulge here , but nevertheless i was critically questioned for my wrong grammar , however minimal it might have been.<br />
Interestingly, I was also &#8220;promoted&#8221; , so to say and given wider privileges on the <strong>ODP</strong> and allowed to manage a full locality. I had actually <strong>applied</strong> for this category after being an editor for its sub-cat for some weeks. Considering the localities i edit in have considerably less webmaster submissions, and also relatively low number of sites to mine, this particular category is nothing large within the ODP &#8230; but truly what my meta scolded me for makes more meaning. An editor within such lesser number of sites should be even more meticulous in his <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/describing.html">editing style</a>.<br />
My additional category requests (mentioned above) were sitting for sometime, so I had opted to do some <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/greenbuster/">greenbusting</a> (apply to help out in larger branches of the ODP without being a named editor ), and surprisingly I got that approved yesterday too. <img src='http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
For a visitor to this blog or a webmaster thinking about DMOZ : may take note about the ODP and its quality. People often ask why DMOZ says it has low resources , why the editors are not bothered with site submissions and things such as receiving reply for rejection and such. Surely it is evident that because the resources are used for maintaining the high quality of editing , wherever possible.</p>
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		<title>Being a DMOZ editor</title>
		<link>http://www.phpcafe.net/blog/2008/01/05/being-a-dmoz-editor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arindra</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes , my life has changed quite a bit ever since i became a editor at the ODP . previously i have made a post on this blog , where i did already mention that I have this new identity , but i was rather little unsure if I should be mentioning that I am [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes , my life has changed quite a bit ever since i became a <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/help/become.html">editor</a> at the <strong>ODP</strong> . previously i have made a post on this blog , where i did already mention that I have this new identity , but i was rather little unsure if I should be mentioning that I am an editor , whether that would be breaking any protocol , whether I would be marked by others or will become a target for unfair advances . Well, no longer I have those confusions .<br />
The protocol I was afraid of does not prohibit me from disclosing that I am editor, rather it is upto me whether I feel safe in disclosing that I am an editor at <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/">DMOZ</a>, because there exists uncountable hostile elements , who blame DMOZ because they have nothing better to do .<br />
Yes, there is always the undesirable feeling that I may be target of various kinds of underhanded and illegal advances &#8211; <strong>bribery</strong> or otherwise &#8211; but after being an editor over 2 months, i have come across incidents where largely guarded DMOZ editor&#8217;s identities have been <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/communication.html#abuse">unearthed</a> and contacts made via &#8211; Email, roadside, over phone and what not . So it does not make any difference if your identity is guarded or not . Rather , it is of importance that one remains as indifferent as before and sensible and objective in their <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/socialcontract.html">work</a> .<br />
What we surely are not allowed to disclose is the internal discussions, and reasons for discussions in open forums , there definitely remains a protocol for external communication.<br />
While being an <strong>editor</strong> at the ODP , i have come across many discussions where there is an open conflict between various webmasters and individuals who volunteer at the ODP &#8230; and it has been stated that <strong>DMOZ</strong> does not like webmasters .<br />
I am a <strong>webmaster</strong> myself , and I have come to understand what the above statement means &#8230;. which simply means DMOZ likes the regular layman web visitors more .<br />
Google , MSN , Yahoo also seriously does not like webmasters ( to the same effect ) , and they try to make their search capabilities and index more cleaner for the regular web searcher and not the educated webmaster .</p>
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